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LiamR · Nov 04, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55

"9. Do Not Abuse the English Language

This is a message board, not a chat room. Secondly, DO NOT use "Leet-Speak" in our forums. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author???s original message."

I really don't understand this rule.. is it a bannable offense to tlk lyk ths? I mean, i just talk like it would be written 'cos it looks good, but seriously, does this need to be a rule and why?

Tyggen · Nov 04, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by LiamR

Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author???s original message.

There's your answer. It's not bannable, but the posts may get "translated."

The Pointless · Nov 04, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

It doesn't look good, it looks like you're either incapable of using a keyboard or you are viewing this forum throught a mobile (if mobiles supported PHP of course). It's unnessesary and annoying... it also feels rude to me.

As someone who has been using computers since childhood (from the Amiga) I find it more difficult to actually type in such stupid "spk" anyways.

Please save that for chat rooms, where it is actually a must.

Cherno · Nov 04, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Forums are based on written communication. If you can't write in a way that can be understood easily then you fail to communicate. If you can't communicate there is no need to post and expect any kind of dialog. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to try. You should break out of the habit of l33t speak anyway, it will not serve you in your adult life.

unienaule · Nov 05, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

We won't ban you for just one post in incomprehensible leetspeak, but they will be deleted, and if you were to continually post that way, you might get banned. It's like doing anything else repeatedly over and over that doesn't contribute. Once is just annoying, but keep it up and I can't say how far we'd go in response.

tuna-fish_sushi · Nov 05, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

It could be a bannable offense because then come other useless posts with no orientation to the topic, saying how bad your grammar is and causing unwanted spam.

Also I view these forums on my psp though I never post on it. It takes at least 5mins to type what I just typed. I would probably change some words to make it easier for me to write but not enough to make it unreadable.

Pyrea · Nov 05, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by The Pointless

As someone who has been using computers since childhood (from the Amiga) I find it more difficult to actually type in such stupid "spk" anyways.

He hee, I started out on an Amiga as well, nice to meet someone similar

And I totally agree with you as well. Using shorthand or leet talk in a forum shows laziness and a total disrespect for other forum users...

Save it for mobiles and chat rooms ^ ^

DeanBB · Nov 05, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Keep in mind that there are also people with english as a 2nd language and so using that form of communicating isn't going to do some of them a whole lotta good.

Tark Alkerk · Nov 05, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

also this would have been better dicussed in the forum surggestions, or even pm-ing a Mod about it.

Spader · Nov 05, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

I think the rule is in place to keep from having posts like this a simular quote in just random threads.

"ta heros r just worthless they shud make them fight gooder."

I admit to just writing in all lower case exceot for here, since I do tend to have a few run on sentances.

Samuel Anders · Nov 05, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

Keep in mind that there are also people with english as a 2nd language and so using that form of communicating isn't going to do some of them a whole lotta good.

I'm new here, and this rule was one of the reasons I ultimately decided to join. I hate going to chat rooms and seeing it filled with leet speak garbage.

I agree with the quoted statement, and I'd like to add that this rule won't work against those who don't speak english very well. There's a huge gap between not knowing the language, and just blatant lazyness.

Mesmer in Need · Nov 05, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

leet speak is hard to understand for most people. now on the froums, i dont have perfect sentance structure, and i tend to write fast and make mistakes, as well as not capitalising some of the letters i should. i abreviate stuff too like lol, rotfl but thoes are normaly abreviated. you ususally dont see anyone saying "laughing out loud" but thats how we interpret it.

dansamy · Nov 05, 2006, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by The Pointless

It doesn't look good, it looks like you're either incapable of using a keyboard or you are viewing this forum throught a mobile (if mobiles supported PHP of course).

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Terra Xin · Nov 05, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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I agree with the quoted statement, and I'd like to add that this rule won't work against those who don't speak english very well. There's a huge gap between not knowing the language, and just blatant lazyness.

I find second language speakers more easy to understand than someone who types in shorthand, most of the time its like "wow, english is your second language?". But yeah I agree with the rule posted by this site, communication is important, not the speed at which you present it.

Yanman.be · Nov 05, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

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Originally Posted by dansamy

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Doesn't it cost alot to get online through a mobile network?

The Pointless · Nov 05, 2006, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by dansamy

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Most people aren't that jammy though XD

Electric Sky · Nov 05, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Leet speak is just plain annoying to read. Thats all there is to say about it

Alias_X · Nov 05, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

It takes a lot longer to make sense of someones stupid spelling, etc.

Besides, you look much more intelligible by writing proper posts.

Nadasee · Nov 05, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Leet speak is sooo enoying to read yes!
And as most people says here, it just plain Enoying and impossible to read sometimes! And you seem less inteligent and childish by typing it. btw, what's wrong with proper Eng language typing ect!? atleast you get what people says then.

Less good Eng speaking people may use leet speaking look-a-likes, but bad Eng typing can't be that close to leet speak can it...
They do on the other hand see it as a mutch easier way to type, but, i suggest they spend thoes leet speaking lessons on propper Eng ones instead.

Bann Leet speak!

LiamR · Nov 05, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

All valid points, but I don't see why this should be a rule, per se. Maybe a hint? Little pop-up when you first join?

"D0n7 74|k |1k3 7h15 0r y0u w1|| b3 b4nn3d!"
or even.
"[)0|\|+ +@||< |1|<3 +|-|1$ 0|2 `/0|_| \X/1|| |}3 |}@|\||\|3[)."

^^

Nov 04, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55	#1
LiamR Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]	What the heck. "9. Do Not Abuse the English Language This is a message board, not a chat room. Secondly, DO NOT use "Leet-Speak" in our forums. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author???s original message." I really don't understand this rule.. is it a bannable offense to tlk lyk ths? I mean, i just talk like it would be written 'cos it looks good, but seriously, does this need to be a rule and why?

Nov 05, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#19
Nadasee Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006	Leet speak is sooo enoying to read yes! And as most people says here, it just plain Enoying and impossible to read sometimes! And you seem less inteligent and childish by typing it. btw, what's wrong with proper Eng language typing ect!? atleast you get what people says then. Less good Eng speaking people may use leet speaking look-a-likes, but bad Eng typing can't be that close to leet speak can it... They do on the other hand see it as a mutch easier way to type, but, i suggest they spend thoes leet speaking lessons on propper Eng ones instead. Bann Leet speak! Last edited by Nadasee; Nov 05, 2006 at 03:25 PM // 15:25..

Nov 04, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#3
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	It doesn't look good, it looks like you're either incapable of using a keyboard or you are viewing this forum throught a mobile (if mobiles supported PHP of course). It's unnessesary and annoying... it also feels rude to me. As someone who has been using computers since childhood (from the Amiga) I find it more difficult to actually type in such stupid "spk" anyways. Please save that for chat rooms, where it is actually a must.

Nov 04, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44	#4
Cherno Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Stars of Destiny Profession: E/	Forums are based on written communication. If you can't write in a way that can be understood easily then you fail to communicate. If you can't communicate there is no need to post and expect any kind of dialog. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to try. You should break out of the habit of l33t speak anyway, it will not serve you in your adult life.

Nov 05, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#5
unienaule I dunt even get "Retired" Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	We won't ban you for just one post in incomprehensible leetspeak, but they will be deleted, and if you were to continually post that way, you might get banned. It's like doing anything else repeatedly over and over that doesn't contribute. Once is just annoying, but keep it up and I can't say how far we'd go in response.

Nov 05, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#6
tuna-fish_sushi Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Profession: E/A	It could be a bannable offense because then come other useless posts with no orientation to the topic, saying how bad your grammar is and causing unwanted spam. Also I view these forums on my psp though I never post on it. It takes at least 5mins to type what I just typed. I would probably change some words to make it easier for me to write but not enough to make it unreadable.

Nov 05, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57	#8
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Keep in mind that there are also people with english as a 2nd language and so using that form of communicating isn't going to do some of them a whole lotta good.

Nov 05, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13	#9
Tark Alkerk Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a Black Hole Guild: less Profession: E/	also this would have been better dicussed in the forum surggestions, or even pm-ing a Mod about it.

Nov 05, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19	#10
Spader Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: W/Mo	I think the rule is in place to keep from having posts like this a simular quote in just random threads. "ta heros r just worthless they shud make them fight gooder." I admit to just writing in all lower case exceot for here, since I do tend to have a few run on sentances.

Nov 05, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20	#12
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	leet speak is hard to understand for most people. now on the froums, i dont have perfect sentance structure, and i tend to write fast and make mistakes, as well as not capitalising some of the letters i should. i abreviate stuff too like lol, rotfl but thoes are normaly abreviated. you ususally dont see anyone saying "laughing out loud" but thats how we interpret it.

Nov 05, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39	#17
Electric Sky Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006	Leet speak is just plain annoying to read. Thats all there is to say about it

Nov 05, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11	#18
Alias_X Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005	It takes a lot longer to make sense of someones stupid spelling, etc. Besides, you look much more intelligible by writing proper posts.

Nov 05, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#20
LiamR Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]	All valid points, but I don't see why this should be a rule, per se. Maybe a hint? Little pop-up when you first join? "D0n7 74\|k \|1k3 7h15 0r y0u w1\|\| b3 b4nn3d!" or even. "[)0\|\\|+ +@\|\|< \|1\|<3 +\|-\|1$ 0\|2 `/0\|_\| \X/1\|\| \|}3 \|}@\|\\|\|\\|3[)." ^^